By: Anonymous
Monday, December 14, 2009 5:10 AM
i still want to know about belle’s question about the link to where mary was supposed to have made fun of seraph for being homeless? did seraph ever answer that?

 http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/07/30…

Seraph NEVER apologizes for anything, even if she straight out tells a lie and was proven wrong.

I had posted that answer earlier in this blog and will re post it:

In regards to yet another lie that Seraph made:

Seraph:
Funny, you didn’t seem to say anything to her when Mary made fun of the time when I was homeless

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 http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost…

Which btw she claimed once before here:

And admitted supposedly it happened at the BG Forum:

Seraph
Yes, it was on BGforum…someone brought it up and you laughed about it and I believe you then made a comment about snuggling up in your home with your dogs. It hurt my feelings quite badly. That was a difficult part of my life…I’m not ashamed to admit that it was a seriously dark time for me but getting made fun of was just….wow. I do thank you for your apology, though

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 http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost…

I went back and checked and did found the post from Mary that seraph claims was about bashing her:

Merlin and Seraph can pretend and use the guise of “just giving their opinion” but to anyone who has half a brain it is obvious the reason for saying what they said was to cause hurt and to be cruel. They wanted to strike out and hurt where they knew it would because of defenses being down because of my brothers death. That is totally way out of line for anyone to act. I picture those two spending all their time in front of their pc’s, bashing, attacking etc and never leaving the computer screen. lol. There is so much more in life to enjoy and be a part of. There is so much joy in simple kindness which a certain few over there need to learn as well. I have no regret in taking GDH’s earning from her and she proved that I was right in doing so by the vicious things she said after I spoke of Liams death. What a sad meaningless life the three of those have. I have no anger by that statement, its just what I truly think their lives are about.

I am going to snuggle with my dogs now and think about all the good things in life that there are and that can be enjoyed, all of which do not involve monetary gain.

Happy Sunday..well sunday night
Mary

 http://bgpaymail.com/forum/index.php?s=a…

So Belle, there is your answer to your question, there is NO post like that……

So…in plain English…Show us this post ..I’m sure the story will be “BG must have erased it” which I very much doubt as the rest of the thread is intact.
Comment by Belle Starker — November 12, 2009 @ 8:46 p11 | Reply

 http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/08/14…

Again Seraph plain lied, not only that, she seemed to be satisfied Mary apologizing to her for something she actually did NOT say.

She has NO proof because it never happened, simple….

This is to funny:

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Seraph
Click Fraud common thing now?
I’ve stayed out of the GPT industry lately. Too much drama, for my tastes.

Anyways, I joined a client’s website on a whim, and noticed that there was a note on the PTC that people MUST click links, or get their account banned. I expressed my shock to him, and found out that they were actually ENCOURAGED by a PTC affiliate network to do so.

What? Since when did this kind of activity become allowable?

For those who may be a bit lost on this, here’s why it is wrong.

Advertisers…the ones who pay for your clicks…are expecting what we call “genuine leads”. Its why the Golden Rule of GPT/PTC is “Do not click the links unless you are truly interested”. They pay their money for leads…trying to find someone who will buy their product. Logically…they don’t want to pay for leads of people who could care less about their product, and just want the money.

I heard a story once about someone who filled out a quote for house rewiring. She wasn’t interested, but wanted the $5. She got a call up a couple days later from a local electrician who had received the inquiry. After she explained to him she wasn’t interested…they got to talking. Eventually he told her that he’d gotten a lot of the same responses lately, and it was hurting his business. He had been paying a company $10 for each lead, in the hopes he might find a job, so he could continue his business. And, you know, feed his family. She felt really bad about it when she heard, and even offered to pay him back what he paid. I don’t remember if he accepted or not…but there you have it.

Anyways, back on subject. Its been a big thing recently as well, that incentive-allowing networks are fast disappearing. This in turn, kills the GPT industry. The networks cannot survive without advertisers. Advertisers cannot survive if they cannot make money. If they are merely funneling their funds into what seems a black hole of fake leads….they will leave. It’s logical.

So, of course…we all knew…or I *THOUGHT* we knew…that pressuring people to click on links was a bad thing. But apparently, it is not. And shame on the networks who are encouraging…nay, instructing…the GPT sites to do so. I know one for sure…I spoke to another, who is going to be speaking with their clients, and clarifying things.

Like I said, it’s been a long time since I’ve felt like standing up and saying something. But seriously, this is nothing but a quick way to destroy everything. Forcing people to click on links, is flat out FRAUD. Just Google click fraud, and take a look at the steps legislation and the courts are taking towards stopping it.

Sorry for the wall of text…it was just entirely shocking for me to see, and to find out that it was going on. Its plain out wrong.

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Hm wonder what she called the famous chat she attended, where they shared private info and talked about others in a not so nice manner…..

Or what she called GPHW when she was found out about that she was cheating PO’s and with it trying to cheat the advertisers by dublicationg offers and such……

Or when her ‘friend’ christina aka dealbarbie, was found out to have let some of her ‘friends’ have dublicate accounts, dublicating offers etc…….

Advertisers purchase ads in hopes to get business,no doubt about that, but are well aware they may not get anything or very little at all for the money they put into it….

Same in the ‘real world’, for example, samples are handed out of a certain product in hopes the costumer will buy it and continue to do so, but we all know it does not work that way, some will buy some will simply take the sample and go on their merry way with no intention to ever purchasing…..

Those samples are the same as any other form of advertisement and yes, it cost money, but any advertiser knows well the risk they take and besides,simply because I tried something or in the case of GPT, clicked the link to see what it is all about, does NOT mean I will purchase, join or whatever may be offered……it simply means I’am checking out what is advertised..

On the other hand,an advertiser expects to get so many clicks, or so many samples being handed out or whatever the case may be, if not, I’am sure they will go somwhere else where at least they can see the click rate is higher and with it, hopefully the purchase (s)…..

And in my opinion, you didn’t feel like standing up for anything because you to embarressed others had found out about your involvement in that chat, about the sharing of private info, the insulting way others were talked about and how easiliy you lie about others to the point of defamation and never once apologize, even when proven wrong….

So now you did some work for a site and waited till you were done then talked bad about the PO?

as according to:

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gptcashcow
Sereph,
Just a question? Is this a site you was redoing a template for? I don’t think you just joined the site, I think you was working on it.

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 http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthre…

I say that is pretty shitty, you collect the money then  talk bad about him, but hey, so like you……

 http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/07/27…

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July 27, 2009

Dealbarbie Rip Off Report

DEALBARBIEPAYS approved a payout for my account on February 21, 2008. It was to be sent to my paypal account. So far I have never received it. I have sent numerous emails only to be ignored. When I logged into my account yesterday, they had labelled my account ‘cheater!’ This really made me angry because I was always honest when doing the surveys and completing the offers. It seems really strange to me that they would put such a label on my account after I had complained to them about not receiving my money. I know it is only $19.50, but it the principal of the thing. Who is their right minds would take advantage of stay at home moms

? I give Deal Barbie Pays 2 Thumbs down! Dealbarbie is no deal rather a COMPLETE RIP-OFF!

Tammy
Creston, North Carolina
U.S.A.

Chances are, if someone filed a rip off report, they were ripped off!  Now what is more interesting about this rip off report are the comments:

From Seraph:

 http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/07/26…

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July 26, 2009

Coincedental? Or not?

I have heard so many stories about site owners whom have allowed people to repeat offers, and have heard just as many about owners who allow particular members to hold more than one account, that eventually it has made a believer out of me. I truly do not think that the newer sites are doing this now because they come into ownership during a time when there were no tickle tests, and the rules became stricter on the surveys.

I am not throwing out accusations at this one site owner, but this is either pure coincidence or someone was allowed to have 2 accounts.

So you ask, What does this have to do with deal barbie? In my back to the research post you will see that the same owner also has knowledge of Christina who had not only her own accounts, but also accounts in her husbands name.
Pure coincidence or not, who knows?

 http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/07/26…

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Now that all of that is settled, and the sharing of information has been provided, I want to focus on what I have thought for over a year now.  That is that Christina of dealbarbiepays was allowing duplicate accounts for one member and that she was allowing members (only certain members) to repeat offers.  I also believe that Christina not only had an account on several sites, but also signed up her husband too (which I will show in a screenshot below)  I have not nailed the proof as of yet, but there are a set of circumstantial evidence that leads me to that decision.  I may never prove it, but I will not stop  trying until it is proven to me that it never happened.

In this blog, Kira states that Chritina removed other site owners, and also went on to say that Christina not only had accounts on sites, but so did her husband, which is one of the number one rules of gpt sites..Only one person per household.

rules of gpt sites..Only one person per household.

 http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/07/25…

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July 25, 2009

It is clear now. E has emailed me finally!

I received an email sometime during my blogging this afternoon from Eleisha, the old owner of awholelotofgreen.  I was asked because of her lack of skills in posting on forums to post a few things for her.

Eleisha wanted me to share part of a conversation between Myssi, dealbarbie, and herself about the split in partnership that she feels caused all the trouble.

Dealbarbie stood in as a mediator and tried to help them both come up with an amount that soothed them both.  (For the record, after reading, I do think barbie was really trying to help them figure it all out, and seemed fair)

Here are a few of those blurbs from their conference:

dealbarbie (11/7/2007 10:11:23 PM): no pending payments at this moment
myssiann76 (11/7/2007 10:11:40 PM): I pulled what was in everyones accounts, would that not include pending?
dealbarbie (11/7/2007 10:11:45 PM): NO

SELLINGGAL1 (11/7/2007 10:37:03 PM): christina wait, i trust u, what do i owe her and i will paypal it now
dealbarbie (11/7/2007 10:37:30 PM): 977.71
SELLINGGAL1 (11/7/2007 10:37:36 PM): no sense in u taking away from your busy schedule to be a mediator with someone i thought was a friend
dealbarbie (11/7/2007 10:37:50 PM): I am just trying to make sure all on the same page
SELLINGGAL1 (11/7/2007 10:37:52 PM): ok on its way now, via paypal!
SELLINGGAL1 (11/7/2007 10:38:21 PM): this is insane, ty girl for your time, u have bigger fish to fry than this!

SELLINGGAL1 (11/7/2007 10:05:54 PM): everyone has been paid christina from last month, i went and bought the g/cards myself and mailed them

dealbarbie (11/7/2007 10:06:01 PM): so I need the following from the updater > membership > stats then the $$ amount under members earnings:
myssiann76 (11/7/2007 10:06:02 PM): And all money we profited all the month of Oct, and up till Nov. 7th
myssiann76 (11/7/2007 10:06:11 PM): Yes she has paid everyone..

During the chat that I posted earlier, the mention of an echeck was made:

paycage(removedemail) (1:14:29 PM): Yeah I BET!!  Did the e-check go through?
myssiann76 (1:14:44 PM): yes!!
dealbarbie (1:14:46 PM): lol
discodollarsamber (1:14:47 PM): lol
greenleafelf17 (1:14:47 PM): YEAY
greenleafelf17 (1:14:54 PM): well i knew but still yeaayyyy

So I guess it is all clear now and no reason to continue to wonder if Eliesha who is so hardly banged out in this chat,  paid Myssi the amount that barbie figured for them (and after reading through I actually agree with), and that she did indeed pay her members.

 http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/07/25…

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As I sit and go  through emails I have received from members and site owners from now and from years ago,  I am just overwhelmed at the hurt.

I can’t be easily persuaded to believe anything, but I do believe all of this that I am reading.  I don’t understand why it is that so many people think it is okay to do these things.  I understand the need to build that ladder to success, but people, this is not the way to get there.

In light of the dealbarbie thread taking the turn that it did, and I blame myself for that, I do think it is important that everyone knows that there is no reason to be afraid anymore.  I do truly believe that these people will not actually hunt you down and burn you with fire, they can only burn you with their posts..

I think the important lesson in all of this is the seriousness we all need to take on internet safety.

1. Be very cautious when giving out your personal information online.

2. Don’t believe everything people on the internet tell you. Since you can’t see the other person, you don’t know who they really are.

3.  Remember that when you engage in activities on the internet, engage in them as if your mother is standing over your shoulder.

 http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/07/25…

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