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July 25, 2009

A new day with more questions!I really wish I was around during the WAHM days to see posts like this for myself.

Since the chat was released, I do believe it is easy to determine the circle of “friends”

Here is a screencap that was sent to me from a member of wahm when it was indeed open.  I want to point out a few things, because I am the one who feels that dealbarbie pays is the one site that did allow duplicate accounts for one member.  I’ll get into most of that later, but really would like to start with where that thought even began.  This screenshot shows an owner who was trying to get into the fraud forum and was beaten down by another owner, Sparestash.

Did this owner repeat offers and in fact should not be allowed in?  She admitted to duplicating one offer, but also admitted that other site owners were duplicating as well.  She also admitted that she was told if it was in a 6 months span, it was okay to duplicate the offer.

Sparestash said it all:

“Other site owners might have repeated offers, but YOU GOT CAUGHT!”

I may not have thought about this much, nor would it have stood out to me had Sparestash not been accused of rigging her own contest. I have to go with my gut feeling here and say that Sparestash was right.  Other owners were doing it, just had not been caught.  My cashout on her site before she closed was small compared to some, but it meant just as much to me as it would have to anyone else.  I would love to talk  to the people who really figured her out and exactly how they did it, maybe it will help me to prove that dealbarbie also allowed cheating to happen while she hid behind her throne!  Anyone who is willing to give that information to me can catch me on AIM at yolondabfl I have never had an account with AIM so forgive me if it takes a while to figure out exactly how to use it!

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July 25, 2009
How does dealbarbie fit into my last post?

This is only my opinion, and I can’t prove with this next screencap that DealBarbie was doing anything wrong, or was the owner of DiveForTheTreasure, but something did catch my eye. Going back to the chat, that I still have not determined when actually took place, and looking at the last screen shot which was posted on June 18, 2007, I can’t help but wonder if they were all sharing information on bad owners and members, why this was said in a public forum yet DealBarbie herself was winning a contest for the owner SpareStash said was caught cheating.  See for yourself.  ( I have removed other members user’sname out of respect for privacy)

Without question, I was even more confused when seeing this.  If DealBarbie was running a fraud forum, and Sparestash was a member of that forum, yet called this owner out in public, why would any owner be even listed on this referral contest?

Then I go back to the previous post at what the owner was saying about  the others wanting fraud  to be sent to her..and I ask myself, Could it possibly be that they were referring bad people to other owners?  For sure they were not doing that, but then again, nothing at this point can surprise me!

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July 28, 2009
My next post:

My next post is one that I really did not think I would have to make.  I received a conversation a week or so ago with a site owner who was telling someone else that Barbie and Bnorris allowed her to repeat offers.

Now, when I spoke with Bnorris about this over on GPT boycott, she claimed that this person may or may not have said this, but if she did it was out of anger.  Tonight, I have gotten a bit more information plus screencaps on this subject.

I do think Bnorris is trying, but this directly ties in with what my whole point of this blog is, and that is to prove that a group of site owners allow people to duplicate offers and allow them to have multiple accounts.

More to come on Tuesday!

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July 29, 2009
Conversation with Kelsey’s Mom

I wanted to let everyone know that I have spoken with Kelsey’s Mom.  She has chosen not to talk about the days when she was an owner.  She has moved past that part of her life.  She seems like a very nice person.  She chose not to answer any questions pertaining to bnorris or dealbarbie.

I 100% respect that in her, and wish her well.  I did let her know that this blog is important to me, and hoped she understood that I would continue on, she understands.

Thank you Kelsey’s Mom for taking the time to talk to me.

And so we move forward……

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July 30, 2009
SpareStash

She tucked her tail between her legs and kissed her ass goodbye!  Why?  Because she was caught rigging her contest.  How was this happening?  Well, story goes that she got caught by a few members who then turned the information over to Seraph.  Do I believe this?  Yes I do.

I spent the better part of the early morning talking with a site owner about exactly how it is an owner can fake her own stats.  It was explained to me clearly.

Basically Sparestash would have had to sign up herself with a new username.  She would not even have to click on the offers to complete, she could just go in as that newly created person, and submit tons upon tons of offers.  She logs out then goes into her Administration Panel through her site and approves the offers.  WTH?  Why would anyone do that? I guess for the same reason Angela did and that would be to fake the stats so that she didn’t have to pay out the highest amount she was offering.  I can’t help but wonder exactly how many site owners were doing this.    Another thing I can’t help but wonder is why one of the site owners in the chat told this newer owner exactly how this happened.  Makes me wonder more about them now.  My advice is, if you are working a contest with any of these owners in this chat, pay close attention to the usernames and the stats.  Smarter than that, go look through all the contests, and see if  any of the positions that won are gone, as if they had been deleted.  Take screenshots!

I am hearing it also works the same as referral contests.  So if you go back through the referral contests on sites, and you placed 2nd and missed the big prize, take a screenshot, then start googling the username that won.  If you are not finding anything, then there is more than likely a problem.

ajsbadgurl143 (12:36:36 PM): how long did it take you before you realized she was a cheat

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July 30, 2009
Bringing together posts on the web

So, because I have heard time and time again about how site owners allow their members to not only duplicate offers under different usernames, but they also delete the offers, teach them how to change their ip addresses to throw off affiliatesa, and on and on and on, I have pulled together a few screenshots that have been sent to me over the last year to help my readers see why more and more, I believe exactly what these posts say.  Now, some may say oh, well I found out later.  I say bullshit. It is always the same group of people involved.

Just in case you didn’t read that last part clearly, I have cut it out for you.

A VERY POPULAR SITE UH?

6 ACCOUNTS?  RESETTING IP WITH A LAPTOP?

Yes, I understand that because of what Paycage did, she has no credibility now.  What about back then when everyone respected her as an owner?  This didn’t sneak up since she left her site, this was  a few years ago.  Now, unless someone wants to show me that she was not apart of the group then, and her credibility was bad then…well, I am going to trust what she was saying.

But then, let me go back to that chat and give this out:

paycage(removed email) (1:11:41 PM): I know I deleted at least one of her accounts…but just “cheatered” the others

This gets pretty interesting because she is not screaming that some moron signed up for her site multiple times.  She is in a joking manner saying she “cheatered” the other accounts.  So why would she delete one account and do this with the “others”  It is because she allowed someone to have duplicate accounts on her site, that is why. As you can see from the chat, she was still just as much part of the group as way back then.

She already knew of a Popular owner who allowed someone 6 accounts, and it was taught to her.  Want more reasons to believe what I am saying?

Just in case, I cut that section out and highlighted what I think is important.

So now you have yet another site owner who claims that there were members in that forum who cheat, yet nothing is done about it.  Then SpareStash (yeah the one who was caught) says “they might cheat, but you got caught”

But then, it goes a bit deeper…

Bnorris herself here says that this girl had 3 accounts.  The kelsey girl admitted to duplicating offers, but was pretty much hounded by the gang that it was all her fault.  One thing that stands out to me is how kelsey did say that she made these people alot of money, and thought they were her friends.

The question still remains.  Did this group of site owners work each other’s sites and make loads, then when they made enough to start their own sites, did they all return the favor?  And who is the “Popular” site owner that allowed 6 accounts for one person?  And why was that not mentioned to the point that someone thought it would be smart to screencap it?  Why is it when there is mention of fraud, these are the ones who scream the loudest?  There is a reason….more to come

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August 3, 2009
Ex owner speaks out!

After almost 6 months of trying to contact this owner,  she finally responds.   I first would like to apologize to her for doing everything in my power to contact her.  I really never expected for anyone to feel violated by a few questions that have been on my mind for some time.   I am sorry again Jennifer, and since you did say you could care less, I am going to post your email.  Please let me know if you feel I need to bring it down.

Ms. Bond,

I don’t mind answering your questions if you will do me a favor.  Please tell your friends or whomever to quit trying to become my friends through myspace.  I have no respect for anyone who continues to pester me about anything with gpt sites.  I have long since removed myself from the headache of that industry and the backstabbing of so many people.  This will be my one and only email to you and there is no need to attempt to contact me again.

Yes, I banned all site owners before I closed.  Everyone was paid what they were due, I even lowered my payout for all site owners no matter what they were owed.  The reason I banned them were due to advice from my affiliate managers plus the forum in which was intended to crack down on fraud only to become a place where innocent members and innocent site owners were accused of fraud.  I had a huge problem with this in the end because many of the site owners who were listed on the forum were not only on my site as members, but none of these owners running the board ever said they were fraud until one of them got mad at another owner.  My whole point, and I made this very clear to at least one site owner that if they were these huge cheaters, they should have first been placed on the board, and second should have never been allowed to join the board.  Someone had something to hide, I felt that way, and because of it, I wanted nothing else to do with any of them.  Yes, my site suffered and I lost out big time because I put what I felt was right above and beyond what was being done in that forum.  I was ridiculed and made like I was a scam because of my decisions.  To this day, I am prouder for myself for sticking up for my beliefs than sticking around in that type of business.  Did I do wrong?  Yes I did, I allowed Melissa and her friend Sandmike to create another account under a proxy.  They showed me how it worked and they got paid for what they did. I have not, and will never blame anyone else for what I allowed them to do but myself.  I was wrong.  After the huge fight that was in that chat, I got called out too.  The difference between myself and the others was that at least I had the gall to go into my own forum and apologize for what I did wrong.  I admitted my faults and after all my payments were made, I closed BOTH of my sites and have moved on to bigger and brighter things in my life.  I have no ill feelings towards these site owners, sometimes when money is all that matters, the morals go down the drain.  If they choose to live their lives that way, that is them, I chose not to and have no regrets.

I read your blog in full last night and couldn’t help but feel bad for these ladies.  I know exactly how they are feeling now, and it does NOT feel good!  I do pray that these ladies always think back to how they are feeling now and remember it the next time they decide to pick on someone else.  Too many good people get ridiculed just because!


Tiffany!  I really miss Tiffany.  Bless her heart, I see that people are still on her.  Please tell her I am sorry for doing this, but the treatment she got was unfair.  During the time I was an owner, I always wanted to stand up for her, but out of fear for my own site, I didn’t.  I have nothing to loose now as my work is totally outside of my own and could really care less if I am believed or not.  Tiffany was a good person.  Bnorris give that poor girl so much hell that she would be so upset.  If tears could be seen through the screen, hers were pouring.  Bnorris did allow her to cheat.  She made Bnorris money and then turned on her.  Bnorris does not deserve Tiffany’s friendship, even though nothing in this world would make me think that Bnorris has done anything to make up to her all she put her through.  I would hate for Bnorris to loose her business over all of this because I can remember that she too has children, yet I do hope that she realizes that Tiffany has children too.  Everything she did, she did for her children.  She was young and only did what Bnorris allowed her to do.  When Bnorris thinks of her family, I also hope she thinks of Tiffany’s family and how they lost out because she chose to let this happen to Tiffany and turned her back instead of telling the truth.
I really hope that Tiffany is seen for the person she really is, and the real truth comes out so that she if she chooses can come back to the business to provide for Kelsey and Lexi.(yes I remember their names Tiff, and I miss you terribly)
Please tell Tiffany that whenever I can, I am going to contact her.  I work on the road now in Insurance and am not around much for time on the computer.

I don’t know if anything I have said can or will help your purpose, I don’t care if you share my email, I just please ask that you now leave me alone.
Thank you
Jennifer