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Published December 15, 2009 Members exposed... 2 Comments
Tags: Seraph-Greenleafelf17-Gptreview

By: Anonymous
Monday, December 14, 2009 5:10 AM
i still want to know about belle’s question about the link to where mary was supposed to have made fun of seraph for being homeless? did seraph ever answer that?

http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/07/30…

Seraph NEVER apologizes for anything, even if she straight out tells a lie and was proven wrong.

I had posted that answer earlier in this blog and will re post it:

In regards to yet another lie that Seraph made:

Seraph:
Funny, you didn’t seem to say anything to her when Mary made fun of the time when I was homeless

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http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost…

Which btw she claimed once before here:

And admitted supposedly it happened at the BG Forum:

Seraph
Yes, it was on BGforum…someone brought it up and you laughed about it and I believe you then made a comment about snuggling up in your home with your dogs. It hurt my feelings quite badly. That was a difficult part of my life…I’m not ashamed to admit that it was a seriously dark time for me but getting made fun of was just….wow. I do thank you for your apology, though

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http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost…

I went back and checked and did found the post from Mary that seraph claims was about bashing her:

Merlin and Seraph can pretend and use the guise of “just giving their opinion” but to anyone who has half a brain it is obvious the reason for saying what they said was to cause hurt and to be cruel. They wanted to strike out and hurt where they knew it would because of defenses being down because of my brothers death. That is totally way out of line for anyone to act. I picture those two spending all their time in front of their pc’s, bashing, attacking etc and never leaving the computer screen. lol. There is so much more in life to enjoy and be a part of. There is so much joy in simple kindness which a certain few over there need to learn as well. I have no regret in taking GDH’s earning from her and she proved that I was right in doing so by the vicious things she said after I spoke of Liams death. What a sad meaningless life the three of those have. I have no anger by that statement, its just what I truly think their lives are about.

I am going to snuggle with my dogs now and think about all the good things in life that there are and that can be enjoyed, all of which do not involve monetary gain.

Happy Sunday..well sunday night
Mary

http://bgpaymail.com/forum/index.php?s=a…

So Belle, there is your answer to your question, there is NO post like that……

So…in plain English…Show us this post ..I’m sure the story will be “BG must have erased it” which I very much doubt as the rest of the thread is intact.
Comment by Belle Starker — November 12, 2009 @ 8:46 p11 | Reply

http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/08/14…

Again Seraph plain lied, not only that, she seemed to be satisfied Mary apologizing to her for something she actually did NOT say.

She has NO proof because it never happened, simple….

Seraph at it again…..

Published December 5, 2009 Members exposed... 4 Comments
Tags: Seraph-Greenleafelf17-Gptreview

This is to funny:

_________________________________________________________

Seraph
Click Fraud common thing now?
I’ve stayed out of the GPT industry lately. Too much drama, for my tastes.

Anyways, I joined a client’s website on a whim, and noticed that there was a note on the PTC that people MUST click links, or get their account banned. I expressed my shock to him, and found out that they were actually ENCOURAGED by a PTC affiliate network to do so.

What? Since when did this kind of activity become allowable?

For those who may be a bit lost on this, here’s why it is wrong.

Advertisers…the ones who pay for your clicks…are expecting what we call “genuine leads”. Its why the Golden Rule of GPT/PTC is “Do not click the links unless you are truly interested”. They pay their money for leads…trying to find someone who will buy their product. Logically…they don’t want to pay for leads of people who could care less about their product, and just want the money.

I heard a story once about someone who filled out a quote for house rewiring. She wasn’t interested, but wanted the $5. She got a call up a couple days later from a local electrician who had received the inquiry. After she explained to him she wasn’t interested…they got to talking. Eventually he told her that he’d gotten a lot of the same responses lately, and it was hurting his business. He had been paying a company $10 for each lead, in the hopes he might find a job, so he could continue his business. And, you know, feed his family. She felt really bad about it when she heard, and even offered to pay him back what he paid. I don’t remember if he accepted or not…but there you have it.

Anyways, back on subject. Its been a big thing recently as well, that incentive-allowing networks are fast disappearing. This in turn, kills the GPT industry. The networks cannot survive without advertisers. Advertisers cannot survive if they cannot make money. If they are merely funneling their funds into what seems a black hole of fake leads….they will leave. It’s logical.

So, of course…we all knew…or I *THOUGHT* we knew…that pressuring people to click on links was a bad thing. But apparently, it is not. And shame on the networks who are encouraging…nay, instructing…the GPT sites to do so. I know one for sure…I spoke to another, who is going to be speaking with their clients, and clarifying things.

Like I said, it’s been a long time since I’ve felt like standing up and saying something. But seriously, this is nothing but a quick way to destroy everything. Forcing people to click on links, is flat out FRAUD. Just Google click fraud, and take a look at the steps legislation and the courts are taking towards stopping it.

Sorry for the wall of text…it was just entirely shocking for me to see, and to find out that it was going on. Its plain out wrong.

___________________________________________________

Hm wonder what she called the famous chat she attended, where they shared private info and talked about others in a not so nice manner…..

Or what she called GPHW when she was found out about that she was cheating PO’s and with it trying to cheat the advertisers by dublicationg offers and such……

Or when her ‘friend’ christina aka dealbarbie, was found out to have let some of her ‘friends’ have dublicate accounts, dublicating offers etc…….

Advertisers purchase ads in hopes to get business,no doubt about that, but are well aware they may not get anything or very little at all for the money they put into it….

Same in the ‘real world’, for example, samples are handed out of a certain product in hopes the costumer will buy it and continue to do so, but we all know it does not work that way, some will buy some will simply take the sample and go on their merry way with no intention to ever purchasing…..

Those samples are the same as any other form of advertisement and yes, it cost money, but any advertiser knows well the risk they take and besides,simply because I tried something or in the case of GPT, clicked the link to see what it is all about, does NOT mean I will purchase, join or whatever may be offered……it simply means I’am checking out what is advertised..

On the other hand,an advertiser expects to get so many clicks, or so many samples being handed out or whatever the case may be, if not, I’am sure they will go somwhere else where at least they can see the click rate is higher and with it, hopefully the purchase (s)…..

And in my opinion, you didn’t feel like standing up for anything because you to embarressed others had found out about your involvement in that chat, about the sharing of private info, the insulting way others were talked about and how easiliy you lie about others to the point of defamation and never once apologize, even when proven wrong….

So now you did some work for a site and waited till you were done then talked bad about the PO?

as according to:

__________________________________________________________

gptcashcow
Sereph,
Just a question? Is this a site you was redoing a template for? I don’t think you just joined the site, I think you was working on it.

__________________________________________________________
http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthre…

I say that is pretty shitty, you collect the money then talk bad about him, but hey, so like you……

Seraph’s excuses…..

Published December 1, 2009 Members exposed... 0 Comments
Tags: Gptreview, Greenleafelf17, PO's exposed..Site Owners chat, Seraph

c/p from yolanda’s blog to preserve….
http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/07/30…

July 30, 2009
Seraph’s excuses…..

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This post was listed on January 05, 2008 on www.wahmvoice.com

As many of our readers know, that post has been removed along with all the other posts that relate to the people in the chat. This is the big ANNOUNCEMENT That Seraph posted about on GPT boycott concerning the Chat! A huge thank you to the one who sent this to me tonight! Comments are always open!

Hi guys, this is your WAHMVoice admin…of course.

You may also not know, but I am also called Seraph. I also run www.gptreview.net, and of course I run this lovely forum. I also usually have the username of GreenleafElf17.

Recently, a chat has surfaced….well…more like RE-surfaced, regarding a conversation I and several GPT owners had amongst ourselves. It’s been touted as a “scandal”, a “conspiracy”, and more. What’s the story behind it? Well, here I am, shaking all of these rugs out into the light. Please be forewarned…there’s a lot of dust on them.

This started back when Putter Palace was still around, and when Myssi from BackAtchaBucks was still the half owner in it. As you all may know, Myssi suddenly up and left the site. What many people do not know is why.

Eliesha, the other partner, was not helping Myssi out. When Myssi asked for assistance, she was told “I paid for half the site because I expected to not have to do the work. You do it, and I’ll sit and collect my half.” Pardon me, but I do believe that isn’t how partnerships work. Well, Myssi understandably then explained she needed to work more on her other site, and to spend more time with her family. Apparently, Eliesha was not happy with that. Which is…an understatement. At this point…she did some stuff that unfortunately, I can’t fully explain here due to legal constraints at this current time.

Anyways, so then of course I, oblivious to this, then make the sorry mistake of questioning Eliesha. I had no idea this has transpired, and as you can read in my article on GPTReview…I was quickly banned and stonewalled from speaking to Eliesha regarding the matter.

Well, soon Eliesha started banning all sorts of members. On top of that, another friend of hers started attacking Myssi some more…causing even more stress and problems. One day, a bunch of the people who were upset with the entire issue got together for what was basically, a “Stitch and *itch” get-together. Yes…basically it was a “Whine about what’s happened recently” thing, lol. I feel kinda silly thinking back on it, but seriously we needed the vent time. It was pretty frustrating to be dealing with all of that.

–post continued below–

Anyways, so of course we started chatting, and poor Myssi was in a SERIOUS funk. So what do I do? I start acting silly to cheer her up. I make silly jokes about going to track down Eliesha to teach her a lesson…trying to make her feel better. (You can see that in the chat, which I will provide a link to for you to download and see for yourself.)

Several comments were made to the like…and I think the one that I contributed that has stirred up the MOST controversy was my joke about “killing with fire”. Now…this is literally a joke I quite constantly say. Most commonly I say it about the bugs in my house…or about a meal I’ve just cooked…but it was all lighthearted. I would NEVER intend to actually set someone on fire in real life. That joke actually started in one of my video games, where my character could control flames. My constant yell against anything that remotely looked askance at me was “Kill it with fire!” Eventually it became second nature for me to say that joke about ANYTHING remotely annoying or frustrating to me.

Aaaaanyways….sorry for the derail there…There was QUITE a bit of venting and frustrating yelling in the chat. There’s no two ways about that. But please, sit back and realize what had just transpired with us. We had been denied hard-earned money, threatened, seen libelous comments made…all sorts of stuff. It was truly intended to be a conversation with us venting our frustrations.

However…we all soon were to find another knife in our backs.

A few days after the chat, I was approached by some of the members of SpareStash. They presented me with a mountain of evidence they had been collecting that showed Angela rigging her own contests. Shocked…I will be honest here…I was at first disinclined to believe it. Sadly though, when I checked, I noticed that the winners of a couple of contest had usernames that matched up with the screen-name Angela used privately on Yahoo.

So…I confronted Angela about it. I told her what was given to me, and that I was deeply saddened by it. I said that I dearly hoped she had evidence to prove this otherwise…or else I would have to go public with the information.

The resulting outburst was quite interesting.

Angela told several others that she was furious with this, and said that she would make sure I “regretted ever messing with her”. Eeps. Several days after I told her I knew what she was doing, she announced the closing of her site. A day after THAT….the chat log of our vent session suddenly appeared on WAHM.com. Interestingly enough…Angela’s comments had been removed, and many things had been edited so that it would look worse.

Soon after that, the WAHM forums shut down. But things did not stop there. Angela and Eliesha suddenly appeared to be completely in alliance…and started posting the chat anywhere and everywhere they could. Interestingly, they made sure to post it in places where they would not be recognized…using brand new accounts that were not associated with their names. They created new accounts over and over, bumping and supporting their threads.

Thankfully, at one point the whole furor died down….once Angela became swamped with emails from her unpaid members.

Now…currently…the thread has recently resurfaced in a forum that is run by a good friend of Angela’s. I will warn you, the chat there is STILL edited, and given a nice spin, of course.

To expose this whole thing into the light…here is a link to the original chat. You can download the .zip file, which has the original log, plus the XML files generated as timestamps.

Copy and paste this link, or just click to download: http://www.wahmvoice.com/the_chat.zip

Please be forewarned though…the chat contains some very explicit language. (None of it used by me, though. )

I will be locking this thread for now…if you wish to discuss it, please feel free to create your own thread. I am also, of course, available to speak via PM or email.

I do sincerely apologize for my actions…I never meant for my jokes to be taken as sincere threats. I’m only human. I said those things in a time of stress, and in an attempt to cheer up someone who is very dear to me.

Sincerely,

Seraph

More of Seraph

Published November 25, 2009 Members exposed... 0 Comments
Tags: Bnorris and AnythingFree4you, Christina- DealBarbiePays, discodollars, GDHRTDWMN, MyssiAnn76 - BackatchaBucks, paycage, Seraph-Greenleafelf17-Gptreview

http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/07/27…

All c/pasted from yolanda’s post to preserve…..

While I wait for some screencaps to be fixed so that no private information is shared, I am going to go ahead and start my series on Seraph.

Who is Seraph?

seraph

Well, Seraph is a girl who has decided to inject herself into the GPT industry as the fraud fighter. I don’t know why she is my favorite person to argue with, but she is. Honestly, I think the more I argue with her ,the more stupid in her words she becomes.

Before I enjoy this too much, let me go back through some of her older posts on GPTB.

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87944&postcount=15

Because the link above directly talks about the chat that I posted earlier in this blog, I would like to dissect her comments to the best of my ability while I choke on how funny she sounds now!
“So now, you see that posted in places by people who have 1 or 2 posts to their names (not accusing you, just also noting that lovely person on that forum who posted it). Who is it? It’s usually Angela, or Eliesha.”

I personally find it funny that the only people who could have posted the conversation (long before I got it) was Angela or Eliesha. From my count, there were several people in that chat, and I can almost bet that because of what was being done and said, all of them kept a copy of it, Including Seraph. Why? Because obviously they knew they were doing something that was totally wrong.

“I’m not sure if I’ve made much sense here…but I still don’t see the justification in this. I was banned for literally no reason. Want to find out more about it though?…

http://gptreview.net/silence.html”

This link is now gone, and everyother link that Seraph posted to warn people about this site.

“I’ve gotten death threats over that. And I’m not thinking they were from my random readers either.”

Death threats really? Where is that proof? I have yet to see it, but what I did see was Seraph and her friends making threats towards someone else. Take it as joking if you wish, but even highschool kids whom make threats such as these are taken seriously. Threats on an airplane are taken seriously, and threats in a grocery store are taken seriously, but for some reason, these threats were just humorous fun..yeah right, stuck your foot right in your own mouth Seraph!

And even more comments from Seraph!

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87954&postcount=17

“Think about it. Angela’s site is gone. She won’t ever be able to come back to the GPT industry ever again. So…why should she care? At this moment, all she cares about is somehow dragging everyone down with her.”

This part is funny to me. Yes, obviously her site was gone at this point, and I doubt she will come back but seriously, I have never seen her post since Seraph found out what she was doing. I don’t know if she spread this conversation around or not, but it does appear that Seraph is trying to cover her own wrong doings by blaming Angela for dragging everyone else down with her. But then, if you think about it, isn’t this exactly the game that Seraph plays? Angela, if you did send out this conversation, then I can give you .00001 % of the respect I had for you at one time, because at least you did give a little back to the gpt industry and show people what was being done with their personal information! If I had a chicken dance readily available, I would give you one for that!

“If you’re going to drag in my private conversation that was a joking thing with my friends, then we should take this to PM. I also then want to know if you think any others who lost their money on a site, and then got upset, also deserve their money to be kept away from them.”

Duuhhhh…Seraph you posted the conversation for everyone to see, how the heck is that your private conversation? Why take it to PM, are you embarrassed that someone caught you?

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87981&postcount=21

“I’m just tired of the attacks.”

Laughing at Seraph

“You guys can attack me however you want. Start sending the email threats again…I don’t care. Start sending me nasty PMs. I don’t care.”

I swear, everytime Seraph gets called out, it turns into a Pitty Party..ahh..people attack me and send me nasty pms, and threatens me…oh please someone just feel some pitty on poor little me…

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87980&postcount=2

“All will be revealed about this later tonight. I’m sick and TIRED of this defamation of character going on about me and my site. I will return later with a link to my public announcement.”

OKAY EVERYONE! STOP EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING, SERAPH HAS AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE! “Defamation of character, count 1″

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=88005&postcount=8

“To automatically accuse people of something of that level, Trish, is extremely defamatory. While you may think the Internet provides a level of safety and that nothing you say on here will be held to you in real life…I beg to differ.

I also request that you remove your accusation that I threatened people, or I will also join DiscoDollars in contacting legal aid. As I stated beforehand, I’m tired of the false accusations, and I’m quite ready and willing to start taking action.”

Defamation of character count number 2! Oh and Seraph, are you that dumb? You did threaten people, now somehow you are trying to turn it around that it was done to you? False accusations? You crack me up! Was it not you in that conversation? Take action Seraph! Please before you embarrass yourself though, make sure you read up on true accusations…

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=88399&postcount=12

“Anyways, I’d really prefer to not drag this out any longer. I don’t care if you want to attack me or say whatever about me…but I’d prefer you’d do it in PM or email me via my forums, really.

As for why nobody’s saying anything…it’s because they’re tired of this. Wouldn’t you be tired of someone constantly taking something you said out of context and dragging it all over the place? “

Ha Ha ha! I wouldn’t want to drag it out any longer either if I were you Seraph, after all the real reason nobody was saying anything is because they had their tales tucked between their legs because this conversation got out to begin with! And, I don’t think anything was taken out of context!

OMG, that was only 2 threads! This is going to be a huge catagory I guess! Defamation count is at 2 , how much higher will it go? You just may be shocked. I did these threads first because they directly tie in with the chat posted under “site owners chat” check it out, it is very interesting!

More to come!

Seraph- continued…..

http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/07/27…

July 27, 2009
Seraph- continued…..

All c/pasted from yolanda’s post to preserve…..

Before I begin I want to make myself clear.

I am taking posts made by Seraph and including them in my blog, chances are that the threads she had posted on were deserving to be there, and I am not saying that I agree with any wrong doing of any site owner or member, I am merely picking at Seraph for her posts. Too, I knew of the chat and read it a long time ago, so my post towards Seraph on GPTB were always posted with that chat in mind.

With the chat still in mind, more of Seraph’s posts:

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=90448&postcount=2

“I am a bit surprised you brought this into public. This probably would have made a better PM to me if you had such issues with my forum…and especially the accusation that I “run with them“. Because an admin decides to not squelch every thread on the forum that’s remotely inflammatory….that makes me a bad person? I’m sorry….I kinda thought that, you know…letting people get to speak their minds was a good thing.”

LOL Seraph, you do run with them.

“I personally do not like dragging stuff out into other’s forums, especially when it so obviously could be taken care of in a quieter, and less dramatic, way.”

Once again, when it is Seraph dragging stuff into forums when it could have been handled in a quieter and less dramatic way, It is okay. The same rules obviously do not apply to anyone who Seraph thinks deserves some public attention!

Oh wait, right after that post, Paycage the frauder speaks out. Oh crap, I forgot about all that! She will need a catagory too I suppose!

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=92058&postcount=11

“I mean….wow. What chutzpah to publically post that.”

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=92495&postcount=2

“I see you falsified your WHOIS with a fake name and are posing as a new person….but next time…change your email. Dead giveaway. Doesn’t help that you left the same address as well…that’s also a dead giveaway.”

Hey Seraph, the next time you create a forum so that you and your buddies can go in and create fake names and pick on people, DON’T PUT IT OUT IN PUBLIC FOR THE WORLD TO SEE, IT IS A DEAD GIVEAWAY!

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=92549&postcount=4

“My problem with her is this: a long time ago she frauded on a bunch of GPT sites and lied regarding why she did it. Her excuse was that she was brand new to the GPT world and didn’t know she couldn’t redo “one or two offers”. (The number of offers she repeated was more like fifty per site)”

Just another caee of sharing PRIVATE INFORMATION from site owners correct? My understanding of sharing completed offers was that they were to be shared with other owners and affiliates if asked. Last time I checked, you didn’t, nor have ever owned a site.

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=93185&postcount=7

This is where the fun begins for me!

“For one, I’m female. For two, it’s because I can’t go after everything. I just had a baby three weeks ago. I have a two year old daughter. I have a company I run. Would you say that you would have the free time to work for free and chase every little thing? I doubt it.”

Not when it is your circle of friends you don’t!

“She didn’t allow it. She’s stating she deleted an account and maked the others as cheater.”

I don’t believe this at all. Especially now that we know this site owner is a scam, do you really expect me to believe that she didn’t allow people to have multiple accounts? Somehow, I will prove this Seraph, but I am sure you already know the truth.

“Um, unknown on my forum’s IP does not match paycage. They are COMPLETELY different. As in, couple thou miles away different. I still actually do not know who it is, thank you. I wasn’t lying.”

You were lying Seraph, you were lying so bad that I proved it right in front of your face! Damn, it must suck to be caught, even back then!

“Like I said, I do try to explain things out. I am not one to just “sweep things under the rug”. I like to get things out in the open, and to hash it out. I actually did not know it was her, and by goodness I’m going to find out. If it;s her, you can bet I will be letting you guys know. I don’t think it’ll help in tracking her down…but it just might.”

Seraph, you knew the whole time! Where you not in that chat? Or were you too busy dreaming about hotdogs and relish to see?

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=93324&postcount=8

“I just got a confirmation that it is in fact PayCage who has the “unknown” account on my forum.”

Dumb ass had it and knew it the whole time

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=92497&postcount=16

“so when the chips are down ya run off?

Shame on you….you played so many people with sympathy cards

You seriously need to learn how to cover your tracks better…or something!

The first time, we caught you due to old forum posts you left everywhere.”

More from Seraph’s Collection of Crap!..

Published November 25, 2009 Members exposed... 0 Comments
Tags: Bnorris and AnythingFree4you, Christina- DealBarbiePays, discodollars, GDHRTDWMN, MyssiAnn76 – BackatchaBucks, paycage, Seraph-Greenleafelf17-Gptreview

http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/07/29…

All c/pasted from yolanda’s post to preserve…..

More from Seraph’s Collection of Crap!
http://www.monsterpayscash.com/get_paid_…

“As you may know, there is a scam site out there called ExtraHolidayCash. Most site owners know darn better than to even mess with her. When speaking with a client yesterday, he mentioned that site and wondered how she had made so much money. I clicked to the site, pointed out how the stats were obviously falsified…and then noticed a banner for Putter Palace on the front page. Shocked, I clicked it…and noticed something even worse.

It went DIRECTLY to the front page of the site. No ref link, no nothing. Usually this means that the owner has paid for a link to be like that.”

Thank you TM for the screenshot! Seraph, did you not see the last few approved offers when you were complaining about this on Wahm? Well, it is okay, even if you did, I am sure you wouldn’t make a fit over your dear bashing buddy, DiscoDollars!

seraph

And it gets worse. Anyone who is connected with me, has said nice things about me, or is known to have supported me in any way, is now being contacted by her with the warning that if they are a friend of mine, they had better stop being one or she’ll ban them.

“I am just stunned right now at what’s happened…I am in shock and cannot believe what has happened. She has already banned four or five of my friends off her site for protesting what she did…I have warned everyone to keep quiet….I don’t want anyone else losing money because of me.

But as for me…I removed both her sites…A Whole Lot of Green and The Putter Palace off my site…I cannot support a site who would do that to not only me, but to my friends.”

OMG GIVE ME A TISSUE! SOMEONE IS MESSING WITH YOUR BUDDIES. GROW UP SERAPH, THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GROWN WOMEN.

OH AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE OUT THERE CANNOT SUPPORT A PERSON WHO SHARES PERSONAL INFORMATION. WHO IN THERE RIGHT MIND SAYS ANYTHING NICE ABOUT YOU? OH, I FORGET…THE GANG!

WARNING: DO NOT MESS WITH POOR OL SERAPH’S FRIENDS. SHE DOESN’T LIKE IT AND WILL NOT PUT YOU ON HER USELESS WEBSITE IF YOU DO.

“Well…can’t say anything just yet…(I’ll explain once everything is clear…) but once I heard about the split, I told the ex-partner to remove that image asap.

This problem is actually getting worse. I have been starting to receive threatening emails and IMs from the site’s supporters…one was filled with expletives and threatened to “shut my mouth up permanently” if I didn’t leave her alone. Thing is, I haven’t said a peep other than here and to remove her off my site.

I am also getting leaned on by various people who I would have never expected it from to take back what I’m saying about her.

This is just…wow. I never expected to have all this stuff occur after I mentioned what she was doing.”

Gosh Seraph, are you sure you weren’t reading your own chat finding threats?

Originally I was deleting some of the threats because they were just ridiculous…but lots of people have told me to start saving any of them that I receive. I would call the police here, but they’d probably think I was calling about the other thing I have them investigating right now, lol.”

OMG you mean someone else was messing with your buddies and you didn’t like it? I wouldn’t call the police either Seraph! They would laugh at you.

“http://www.wahmvoice.com/forums/phpB…topic.php?t=64

(Sorry, know I’m not normally supposed to point links to anything..but this is a forum topic thats a little long to transcribe…)

Finally, I can talk. Read that thread. It details what happened…

The reason why I couldn’t originally speak was because the owner of AWOG was holding a payment to one of my friends hostage…and it was a thousand dollars. She needed that payment to pay her bills and to take care of her family, and she threatened that if we said a word….she’d take the money and run.

In the end…it didn’t matter…the check cleared and then we found out she’d gotten into several of her site accounts and stolen over $700…

But yeah…now you know what’s up…or part of it, LOL.”

I think I have well beyond proven that wrong. And by the way, you should have spoken with Christina since she is the one who worked all that out with the payment. The payment was sent during the damn conversation Seraph, how stupid can you get? Honestly, lying to people helps you none, but at least it gives me something to LAUGH AT IN PUBLIC!

http://www.monsterpayscash.com/get_paid_to_forum/showthread.php?t=1907&page=2

“Well I wasn’t going to say anything. But now I’ve been forced to.

I haven’t done/said anything to Drew…and he does this. It’s quite obvious he plans to continue this…so….I’m going to pursue other actions. I’m tired of dealing with his lies and his attempts to make me look bad.”

LOl Does Seraph really believe that everyone else is trying to make her look bad? I don’t think she needs much help!

“As I stated, I will be pursuing action…I am tired of your co-owner starting petty fights and trying to smear my reputation. It’s immature, and it reflects flat back onto you, unfortunately.”

Smear your reputation? LOL I think she does enough of that right by herself. Pursuing action???????

http://www.monsterpayscash.com/get_paid_to_forum/showthread.php?t=1844

” (Brought to you by GPTReview.net – I find out the weirdest stuff about GPT sites…don’t I?)”

You wanna know what I think about GPTReview.net?

smiles_277

“Yes, he admitted freely in a WAHM.com forum thread what he was doing was wrong. Funny thing is, everyone who asked him why he did it…he cursed out. He told ME to “go …. off.” Another mother who was shocked by his behavior was replied to with “are you my mother? my lawyer? my parents? no so shut up and i will do what i want to do because i will get the money and you wont.”

He then went and banned any people off his site who posted in the forum thread.

Guess some people just get persnickety when they get caught.”

Yes, people like you do act that way!

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=93998&postcount=15

Like I said before, what goes around comes around!

Seraph aka Greenleafelf17….

http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/07/30…

From yolanda’s blog:

Seraph needs some extra attention tonight after the following posts on GPTBoycott:
http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost…

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost…

First, I am going to show my PM’s to Seraph over the year!

I am not going to go through the trouble of screencapping those PM’s because I don’t think that Seraph will actually say they are fake now that she knows I will post them. I’ll just copy and paste only my conversation to her…

July 24, 2008
Originally Posted by ybond
Sorry you feel like I was attacking you for some reason for saying that..
Just because we both share a difference of opinion, doesn’t mean that when I post I am somehow attacking you.
Like I said, I would outright say it to you, have I not always done that? I don’t know you, never have spoken with you, and don’t hear anything other than what I see by someone else posting, yourself posting, or the crazy screenshots and crap that too many people feel they need to keep for some reason..I have no judgement of you at all..If you can help with fraud, that is great!
I came into this whole gpt thing fresh. And have found that ALL owners hold secrets that could haunt them in the long run..
I was paid by squishy, so I have no complaints..just as you have been by dealbarbie, yet I feel that some are allowed duplicate accounts. I know you have seen my pm’s to a few, and with your history of tracking down things, I would think you see the same, but then again, that is just the difference of opinion we both have..It doesn’t make either of us right or wrong.
Okay, so yeah, I said I wasn’t trying to offend her, but had already learned how she works. So, if I have to word things in a way to show that ….oh well.
July 24, 2008

Yeah, I guess you are right about that..
Check thing? Thats a new one..
I was referring to the blogs of ddjsasha and danasurvey.
I have previously tried to contact that girl eleisha, but guess she doesn’t answer her emails..maybe I should entitle it referring to some deal barbie checks? What is all that about anyways?
I have asked several owners about what happened with that owner…yet none of them ever mentioned checks before..

Those are the only two pm’s I have sent to Seraph. Now, there is a possibility that I have deleted one or two, I am really not sure, and if I have surely Seraph will send those to me so I can correct myself here. Secondly, fake checks? WTH? Why is everything fake and altered because they say it is? And what if this person really has dealbarbie checks that prove something? I don’t know that answer but honestly, if there was nothing that needed to be faked, then why even mention it? Leads me to believe further the wrongdoings that are allowed.

I was going to go through her posts on boycott tonight, but decided against it. Not because I don’t want people to see what she is about and how she has shot my theories down each and every time I posted them…

but because I am going to need them to finish my series on Seraph, the GPT Reviewer!

July 29, 2009
Coincedence or Not?

While researching more information on this group of potty mouths, I came across one of Seraph’s associated content articles:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article…

I thought this was pretty interesting for two reasons,

1. This Drew character is pretty funny

2. The chats that are posted!

Now, to get the full story, you would need to read all the way through part 4 that you can find here:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/11…

First thing that sparks an interest in this whole series are the conversations listed. I’ll put a few of them here then explain why.

[17:32] [name removed]: I got a bill today for $146.56 from some company for ordering that wine.
[17:33] GPTReview: 4seasons?
[17:33] [name removed]: Yes!
[17:33] [name removed]: So I call and put on my kiddy voice and was like “I got a note today saying that I owe Merchant Direct $146 for wine. and I’m only 14 (not really), I don’t drink.”

[17:51] [name removed]: How’d you find out?
[17:52] GPTReview: Well I was posting in some of those forums and decided to read your posts
[17:52] GPTReview: You went from college student to 15 year old to mother of three in like seven posts
[17:52] GPTReview: So which is it?
[17:52] [name removed]: Wtf.
[17:52] [name removed]: shhh
[17:53] GPTReview: Are you a college student who is only 15 years old and has three kids?
[17:53] [name removed]: Yes
[17:53] [name removed]: Brb, gotta go put the kids asleep.
[17:54] GPTReview:
[17:54] GPTReview: Nu uh – I dont fall for THAT
[17:54] [name removed]: ROFL
[17:55] [name removed]: You do what you gotta do to get refs.

Why is this so interesting to me? Take a look:

Maddox

I haven’t been a member of AIM long enough to determine if the following screenshot is legit or not, but I am posting it anyways!

maddox

Now, PocketchangeGPt, also the new owner of the dealbarbiepays network did come back and explain just how this was a fake:
http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost…

His post makes alot of sense to me, BUT!

What about the original post? Let me bring it back down so you can take a closer look:

my source gave me his convo he had with this this pocketchangeguy where he was talking about it

[9:37] pocketchangegpt: i have found some information on christina frauding the sites
[9:37] pocketchangegpt: she was real good about it but it slipped up
[9:37] pocketchangegpt: so I told her she needed to make a break from this or I would make sure it was known how she was frauding
[9:38] *************: so everyone was right about her then what did she say to you after you told her that
[9:38] pocketchangegpt: she was furious but she knew i had the power to stop her
[9:39] pocketchangegpt: and now people are complaing that they didnt get payments and prizes
[9:39] pocketchangegpt: for that drawing she did last month
[9:40] *************: this whole thing has just been surreal any other owner that we need to watch out for

Doesn’t this look familiar to :

And from GPT Boycott:
http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost…

When I told him I saw the email he said

[18:00] kingbenny1990: Good did any members IM u?

Glad to see he feels bad about what he did.

Now, I honestly thought that there was a possibility this Maddox person was truly a fake and faking screenshots but then I find more of Seraph’s posts on boycott and realize that IM’s do look like that, as you can see below:
http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost…

[11:54] kingbenny: haha i hope my site gets on the watch list…it’ll make it more popular
[11:54] kingbenny:
[11:55] kingbenny: my site is spreading across myspace like a weed on steroids
[11:58] Seraph: Uh huh…

[11:59] GreenleafElf17: I’ve noticed that the more agitated and upset you become….the more you posture and bluff.
[11:59] kingbenny: ill just look at the 2k Rodex on my wrist and i’ll be happy again
[11:59] GreenleafElf17: LOL You spent money on a rolex? Wow…what a waste.
[12:00] GreenleafElf17: <sigh> What a waste…
[12:00] kingbenny: every boss has one
[12:04] GreenleafElf17: LOL Several of my bosses never had one.
[12:04] GreenleafElf17: Come to think of it, the best boss I’ve ever had…he didn’t have one either.
[12:08] kingbenny: they dont have swag like me
[12:09] GreenleafElf17: <sigh> Benny….just…..forget it. You are blind.
[12:09] GreenleafElf17: See you.
Session Close (kingbenny): Wed Oct 22 12:10:00 2008

Now, I believe Maddox more, more and even more! And I also believe that Seraph knows that dealbarbie was caught and I believe it is very smart for PocketChangeGPT Dan not to admit to what he found out about Barbie, and how he blackmailed her into buying the sites.

Now ask yourself, where was the gang when Barbie was being bashed on GPTBoycott? They were all backing down because Barbie taught them how to cheat too. There is no doubt in my mind now that Barbie and her crew were all doing this, and it was just a matter of time for them all. If you go back through my posts, you can see what shady people they are. Now, Bnorris did speak up but that was merely to save her own reputation. Bottom line is that she has allowed the shadiness to go on too and unfortunatly the one person who could have denied the claims against her decided not to even give a yes or no answer and decided to stay clear from it all…THAT ALONE SPEAKS VOLUMES!

******Make sure to take note of the time stamps******

And too, just because someone posts under proxy does not make it fake, or some of our believers here under comments would also be fake!

GDHRTDWMN and Seraph…….

Published November 18, 2009 Members exposed... 31 Comments
Tags: GDHRTDWMN, Seraph-Greenleafelf17-Gptreview

Lets talk about members who cheat as those should be exposed as well and as much as any PO who is a scammer,fraudster cheater……

And again, in order to preserve some or all of yolanda’s work from her blog, with her permission I will c/p some of the comments and/or proof from there so nothing will get lost in case the shut that blog down, as many have tried and yolanda herself simply had enough because of that…..

In particular I like to talk about GDHRTDWMN and Seraph, who in my opinion are trolls at gptB who can’t wait to jump on anyone, to bash, attack and lie about them and never ever appologize for anything…

Besides sharing private info like seraph and cheating sites such as GDHRTDWMN has been caught in doing..

Seraph, aka greenleafelf17, was one of those present in the now famous chat that exposed some PO’s sharing private info which she also is guilty of and has a mouth like a dutch sailor etc……

Part of that chat concerning seraph:

greenleafelf17 (12:39:00 PM): (removed email address)
greenleafelf17 (1:03:29 PM): myssi – mail me ANYTHING you have. screenshots, logs, whatever
greenleafelf17 (1:03:42 PM): I will make a toasty article that would put the recent california wildfire to shame!
greenleafelf17 (1:10:47 PM): omg i am hoping (removed username) joins my board >:)
greenleafelf17 (1:10:52 PM): i will FRY her\
greenleafelf17 (1:20:25 PM): hey ladies – can i drag in a friend of mine who has some info on eliesha?
greenleafelf17 (1:24:27 PM): believe it or not, (removed username) was the only person there who tried to say anything nice
greenleafelf17 (1:33:02 PM): From: (removed username)
greenleafelf17 (1:40:11 PM): From: (removed username)
greenleafelf17 (1:48:20 PM): they can fark off
greenleafelf17 (2:06:21 PM): yeah it came up as “Registrant: Jeannine (removed name)” for about half an hour

She is also one that will post outright lies and when caught , neither will she appologize nor correct herself but put the blame on anyone else but herself…

Seraph
Re: Cashcrate shouldn’t even be on the watch list

They’ve had issues in the past with booting people off for odd reasons…no offense. On top of that, the owner has been in…legal…troubles. I forget all the charges, but it was like conspiracy for grand theft, and intimidating/harassing a court witness.
http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost…

she later edited the post because of being shown the proof that she was absolutely lying and making false serious accusations about a PO:

Later note: Because people keep bringing this up, please note that I heard this, and it’d been mentioned at MANY other forums. I had been led to believe it was true, since Joe had never refuted the claims up until now. So please, quit it.

If she just heard it, why state as Fact????

the whole thread:
http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthre…

Seraph likes to bash,accuse and attack and seems to me just for the fun of it and to make her look important, no matter if it is the truth or a lie, she will jump right in and definitely will try to derail any subject that she feels uncomfortable with or been called out in ……

She is known to defend scammers/cheaters such as Christina (dealbarbie) who not only once, but twice fooled her members and closed all her sites without notifying her members and who allowed certain ‘friends’ to have several accounts at her site etc…..and of course she will defend GDHRTDWMN also……

Seraph is the owner of: GPTReview.net
http://gptreview.net/forum/

http://www.seraphchan.com/

she also owns Wahmvoice, according to herself:

greenleafelf17 (12:44:50 PM): but yeah, all of you ladies known wahmvoice is mine, right?

http://www.wahmvoice.com/forum/index.php…

She also has a GPT Site Research Blog
http://www.freewebs.com/greenleafelf17/g…

and some more proof how seraph attacks others:

Learn the dirty tricks of Seraph, also known as GreenleafElf17.
http://greenleafelf17.blogspot.com/

I for one would be very very careful joining any site that Seraph is involved with, be it to help out, be chummy with the PO or for whatever reasons she may has anything to do with……

Now about GDHRTDWMN

GDHRTDWMN who was proven (on at least 1 site) to have duplicated offers at pirate riches, a PTSU site (paid to sign up ) even tho she knew that was NOT allowed and she had no problem collecting the money for it, quit a bit too, then turned around and bashed the former owner Mary, for having to close the site which in my opinion was a direct result of members like GDHTWMN milking the PO until they can’t milk any longer, by cheating……

She even was paid some more, after Reagan took over the site and made installment payments to those who were listed for pending payouts …

Reagan (new PO of Pirate Riches at the time) also offered numerous times to show proof of GDHTWMN’s past cheating ,while a member at pirates riches, to anyone who asked……..

Not once has GDHTWMN denied anything nor replied to any post’s about it, of course we all know why not, she has not a leg to stand on…

There is also some more proof that she may have cheated on another site as shown as screenshot byGPTCashCow:
http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm301…

GDHTWMN in my opinion is about as cruel and coldhearted and just as shady as they come and any PO should be made aware of the fact that she indeed is a cheater and can cause serious harm to the site including the reputation of it…

A example of her cruelty is in the following post she made after pirateriches (Mary) Brother was killed in an accident……….

NO sympathy from me Mary. Too many of your sob stories of ways to put off paying the members. There is no ‘proof’ in that article that the man in that accident that happened to have the same last name as her maiden name is truly her brother. There was no mention of who any of his relatives even are. A lot of people have the same last name.
http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost…

She must have a heart of ice and should have said nothing at all if she choose to not to express her condolences, but as you can see, not her……….

Oh,she also forgot to mentioned that she was given money by Mary (former PO of PirateRiches) when:

piratesriches
And gdh failed to mention that when she needed money to go see her son regarding a personal issue, she asked for money which I gave her
http://bgpaymail.com/forum/index.php?s=e…

Seems to me she had her a goldmine, not only cheating at that site by dublicating offers and making herself a quit nicely income,but was also given extra money on the site by the PO for personal reasons, ………

But that is her style, she seems to suck up to the PO, becomes friendly with them and milk the site for all she can until the well runs dry and she start bashing those same PO’s…

In my opinion, she still is doing the same thing at other sites and if she is called upon it or questioned about, she will disappear for a while until she thinks it is safe and hopes that the talk about her has stopped……

Members like her are the ones who can cause sites to fail, especially PTSU sites, and each and every PO should be made aware of her and her shady and sleezy ways of making money of those by duplicating offers

Again, beware,I for one would be very very careful joining any site that those two are involved with, be it to help out, be chummy with the PO or for whatever reasons they may have anything to do with……
http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/08/14…

I also like to address the fact that there are some questions out there about GDHRTDWMN being the possible owner of the following 4 sites and if that is the actual case, anyone should be made aware of that fact as I for one,would NEVER join a site which is run or owed by her…:

TheUdderPTC
SleepyTimePTC
TeaPartyPTC
DogClicks

She does own the sites. She slipped up and told an ex-friend…if you notice all of the banners on all of those only advertise her referral links to other sites…..
Comment by Anonymous — October 4, 2009 @ 8:46 p10

There is no info provided either at whois as to the actual owner but GDHRTDWMN’s name however pops up everywhere on those sites and almost all ads on the homepages are hers..

Questions were asked at 3 different places of who the PO is and no replies even tho, we all know for sure that GDHRTDWMN was reading at yolanda’s blog and at gptB and seen those posts …..
http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthre…

http://www.talkptc.com/index.php/topic,9…

http://www.beenpaid.com/modules.php?name…

Sure makes me wonder and can only come to the conclusion that indeed she owns those 4 sites or at the least is pretty chummy with he PO.

Why not just say no I’am not or yes I’am the onwer? Why does actual PO feel the need to hide their identity?

Pretty strange and sounds fishy to me unless of course GDHTWMN does own the sites and does nOT want others to know she is behind it knowing well she was caught cheating and called out on that plus her constant bashing others at gptB…

Also, after the talk started about GDHRTDWMN being the possible PO of those 4 sites, at one point she even went so far to change her info at viewpoint forum from Pueblo, CO to Cassville, MO and entering false information, as a matter of fact she entered the Info where reagan (GPTCashCow) is from…

Well,GDHRTDWMN can alter her info all she wants, if you google her name you can see that she changed from Pueblo, CO to Cassville, MO:
GDHRTDWMN’s Profile – Viewpoints
Home » Community » GDHRTDWMN. GDHRTDWMN. Pueblo, CO. Profile | Friends & Fans … to GDHRTDWMN. GDHRTDWMN’s friends’ photo collage …
http://www.viewpoints.com/aboutme/GDHRTD… – Similar -
I wonder if viewpoint allows false Info to be posted , hmmm…
Comment by halexzo — October 15, 2009 @ 8:46 p10 | Reply
http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/08/14…

she changes information about herself on a whim, cheated by duping offers and expects others to believe she is this oh so honest and poor misunderstood person,give me a break………..