Seraph at it again…..

This is to funny:

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Seraph
Click Fraud common thing now?
I’ve stayed out of the GPT industry lately. Too much drama, for my tastes.

Anyways, I joined a client’s website on a whim, and noticed that there was a note on the PTC that people MUST click links, or get their account banned. I expressed my shock to him, and found out that they were actually ENCOURAGED by a PTC affiliate network to do so.

What? Since when did this kind of activity become allowable?

For those who may be a bit lost on this, here’s why it is wrong.

Advertisers…the ones who pay for your clicks…are expecting what we call “genuine leads”. Its why the Golden Rule of GPT/PTC is “Do not click the links unless you are truly interested”. They pay their money for leads…trying to find someone who will buy their product. Logically…they don’t want to pay for leads of people who could care less about their product, and just want the money.

I heard a story once about someone who filled out a quote for house rewiring. She wasn’t interested, but wanted the $5. She got a call up a couple days later from a local electrician who had received the inquiry. After she explained to him she wasn’t interested…they got to talking. Eventually he told her that he’d gotten a lot of the same responses lately, and it was hurting his business. He had been paying a company $10 for each lead, in the hopes he might find a job, so he could continue his business. And, you know, feed his family. She felt really bad about it when she heard, and even offered to pay him back what he paid. I don’t remember if he accepted or not…but there you have it.

Anyways, back on subject. Its been a big thing recently as well, that incentive-allowing networks are fast disappearing. This in turn, kills the GPT industry. The networks cannot survive without advertisers. Advertisers cannot survive if they cannot make money. If they are merely funneling their funds into what seems a black hole of fake leads….they will leave. It’s logical.

So, of course…we all knew…or I *THOUGHT* we knew…that pressuring people to click on links was a bad thing. But apparently, it is not. And shame on the networks who are encouraging…nay, instructing…the GPT sites to do so. I know one for sure…I spoke to another, who is going to be speaking with their clients, and clarifying things.

Like I said, it’s been a long time since I’ve felt like standing up and saying something. But seriously, this is nothing but a quick way to destroy everything. Forcing people to click on links, is flat out FRAUD. Just Google click fraud, and take a look at the steps legislation and the courts are taking towards stopping it.

Sorry for the wall of text…it was just entirely shocking for me to see, and to find out that it was going on. Its plain out wrong.

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Hm wonder what she called the famous chat she attended, where they shared private info and talked about others in a not so nice manner…..

Or what she called GPHW when she was found out about that she was cheating PO’s and with it trying to cheat the advertisers by dublicationg offers and such……

Or when her ‘friend’ christina aka dealbarbie, was found out to have let some of her ‘friends’ have dublicate accounts, dublicating offers etc…….

Advertisers purchase ads in hopes to get business,no doubt about that, but are well aware they may not get anything or very little at all for the money they put into it….

Same in the ‘real world’, for example, samples are handed out of a certain product in hopes the costumer will buy it and continue to do so, but we all know it does not work that way, some will buy some will simply take the sample and go on their merry way with no intention to ever purchasing…..

Those samples are the same as any other form of advertisement and yes, it cost money, but any advertiser knows well the risk they take and besides,simply because I tried something or in the case of GPT, clicked the link to see what it is all about, does NOT mean I will purchase, join or whatever may be offered……it simply means I’am checking out what is advertised..

On the other hand,an advertiser expects to get so many clicks, or so many samples being handed out or whatever the case may be, if not, I’am sure they will go somwhere else where at least they can see the click rate is higher and with it, hopefully the purchase (s)…..

And in my opinion, you didn’t feel like standing up for anything because you to embarressed others had found out about your involvement in that chat, about the sharing of private info, the insulting way others were talked about and how easiliy you lie about others to the point of defamation and never once apologize, even when proven wrong….

So now you did some work for a site and waited till you were done then talked bad about the PO?

as according to:

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gptcashcow
Sereph,
Just a question? Is this a site you was redoing a template for? I don’t think you just joined the site, I think you was working on it.

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 http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthre…

I say that is pretty shitty, you collect the money then  talk bad about him, but hey, so like you……

4 Comments

  • At 2009.12.06 05:28, Halexzo said:

    Well, once again Pietro to the rescue of seraph, at her request the thread was REMOVED , I guess I should have taken a screen shot….

    Here is what you get now:

    Invalid Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator

    And here is what Pietro stated:

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    pietro
    Re: Click fraud thread
    The thread was removed at the request of the original poster.

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    http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=120765&postcount=2

    To funny,I thought gptB does NOT remove threads, close them perhaps, yes, but NOT remove a whole thread because the poster realized what crap she wrote and wanted it removed….give me a break Pietro……Once again the Bias is apparent that Pietro has become so famous for

    I tried to see if it was in cache but no such luck….

    • At 2009.12.16 05:01, yokoda said:

      the good thing is Halexzo That treat is still in google cache
      to read for all who are interested

      there was only one responce and that was gptcashcow who obviuos
      is aware of the crooky practice of Seraph
      And yes as always Pietro helps her to cover up her lies
      It makes me wonder what Pietro’s role became in this whole play
      And Trulyfair pops up jsut about every time she is needed
      [quote}

      Originally Posted by trulyfair and answered by Pietro
      I saw the thread in question. It was initiated by Seraph who requested that it be removed after she and the other participants deleted the contents of their posts.
      Had not everyone in the topic deleted their posts the thread would have been allowed to stand. It may have been locked at the request of the original poster but not deleted unless every participant agreed.

      However, as Trulyfair stated, there was nothing left to read or discuss since all of the posts were deleted by their posters.

      If you would like to start another topic please feel free to do so and discuss as much as you want.[/quote]
      Queenoftrafic was asking questions
      it would be a good idea for her to come and read here
      and learn

      yokoda

  • At 2009.12.14 14:36, Halexzo said:

    And again she is trying to make some waves:

    seraph
    I just received a very important email from SunnySideCash letting me know that there is a company out there, Promo-Wise, who is posturing themselves as an affiliate of mine. It is a full-on lie, I have never, EVER dealt with them, nor had I heard of them before this afternoon.

    Please ignore any emails from them…as I do not even know what their intentions are.

    I am attempting to send them a Cease and Desist Order, but its not going through…their emails are bouncing back. To make it worse, the contact info on their WHOIS is “protected”….if posting a fake number and company info can be considered such.

    Any advice on how to handle these frauds would be much appreciated.

    http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthread.php?p=120945#post120945

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    Her site is nothing and in my opinion never was ,just go have a look at her forum, last entries made from the looks of it by spammers and if not, then she intentionally allows fraudsters and scammers to advertise there:

    http://gptreview.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=2

    and of course here comes merlin jumping right in to give his buddy advice:

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    merlin
    Seraph, Contact the police and let them cut the red tape or contact the company that is hiding the info directly,but they will probably not comply without court order which is why I suggest the police.

    http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showpost.php?p=120925&postcount=2

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    Yeah, we all know how he likes to report, including to the FBI, PayPal,IRS etc….actually, to anyone who listens, and he never really has the actual facts…..

    I think anita was right on the dot with her comment at yolandas:

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    They appear to be another site design and promotion company, which would make them a competitor of Seraph’s, kapeesh?

    I think the last line in the above post nailed it: [quote] Oh well…at least she got her name out there. [endquote]

    http://yolondab.wordpress.com/2009/07/30/seraph-needs-more-attention/#comment-1496

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